Brain Based Parenting
Brain Based Parenting, The Boys Ranch Podcast for families.
We all know how hard being a parent is, and sometimes it feels like there are no good answers to the difficult questions families have when their kids are struggling.
Our goal each week will be to try and answer some of those tough questions utilizing the knowledge, experience, and professional training Cal Farley’s Boys Ranch has to offer.
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Brain Based Parenting
If Lectures Worked, Teenagers Would Love Them
Hard talks don’t have to feel like walking into a storm. Today we will unpack how parents can build trust early, stay steady under pressure, and guide kids through topics like death, sex, bullying, and mental health without shutting them down. The focus is simple and powerful: start small, stay honest, and keep connection at the center.
We dig into the conversations many families avoid and the hidden costs of silence, then offer practical steps you can use today. You’ll hear how short, non-threatening check-ins teach kids that you’re safe to approach, why timing and regulation matter, and how tone and body language can either invite openness or trigger defense. We share scripts you can adapt, like asking permission to talk, naming your emotions without oversharing, and using “I don’t know—let’s find out together” to move from authority to ally. You’ll also learn the difference between a lecture that lands with a thud and a dialogue that actually changes behavior.
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Welcome to Brain-Based Parenting, the Boys Ranch podcast for families. We all know how hard being a parent is, and sometimes it feels like there are no good answers to the difficult questions families have when their kids are struggling. Our goal each week will be to try and answer some of those tough questions, utilizing the knowledge, experience, and professional training Cal Farley's Boys Ranch has to offer. Now here is your host, Cal Farley Staff Development Coordinator, Joshua Sprock.
SPEAKER_01:Hello and welcome. Today we're going to talk about the importance of having hard conversations with our kids. To do that, today I'm joined by Taylor Halsey, Casework Supervisor.
SPEAKER_04:Talita Jackson, casework supervisor. Julie Ortega, direct care staff trainer.
SPEAKER_01:All right, let's jump in with our question of the day. Since we're talking about hard conversations today, I thought I'd ask you what is the easiest thing for you to talk about?
SPEAKER_06:I couldn't think of the thing that's easiest for me to talk about, but I I think it's to p who and not what. Depends on who I'm talking to. If I'm talking to people I feel comfortable with, I'm more of kind of an introvert, so I tend to stay quiet. But if I'm around people I'm comfortable with, then I can talk about whatever.
SPEAKER_03:I when I first read this question, I was thinking myself. Why would I not want to talk about the most easiest conversation to have is about myself because I know everything about myself.
SPEAKER_04:So I think for me it's my kids. I have some pretty cool kids, and they've now both married pretty cool people. So I like to talk about my kids.
SPEAKER_01:So we're going to talk about having hard conversations today, which are important to have. So why is it important for parents to have difficult or uncomfortable conversations with their kids, even at a young age?
SPEAKER_06:Well, I think one, it teaches them how to have hard conversations. And if you're setting the stage at a young age of, hey, this is something in our family, we talk about things, then when it there's more high-stakes conversations, it's easier to s have them because at the beginning you are always open and honest. And I think it's just helping kids understand the world and understand, you know, hey, in our family, we this is kind of how we view things, and you may have other views, but this is it helps them have a template and you can teach them, you know, where you're coming from, whether it's just your morals or if you're looking at a perspective religiously or whatever it is, it helps kind of guide them in that direction.
SPEAKER_03:I agree with Taylor. We can't avoid it. Like you you're gonna have difficult conversations and let's start practicing at young, a young age of what that looks like because as we get older and you start having those difficult conversations, the kids may be like, Whoa, what's going on? But we have a lot of practice. You have a practice as kids to receive difficult information and also as parents having those hard conversations because there's no book to tell you how to have difficult or uncomfortable conversations with your kids and you're just winging it.
SPEAKER_04:I agree. It just you have to start having them early so it becomes normal. It's normalized to have hard conversations then and then it's not a scary thing that you want to try to avoid if you've just made it a normal part of your um family environment. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I often think that they're gonna talk to someone about it, and you'd rather get the information from you as the adult. Because they're I mean, it you don't you don't want them to go to the wrong person to get the wrong information, and as the parent, you're the right person. So starting early is always good. So, what kind of topics do parents tend to avoid? And what are some of the emotional, relational, or spiritual risks of avoiding them?
SPEAKER_03:So when I first read this question, I kind of just automatically went to sex. Those are hard conversations that parents no one wants to have those conversations. But the more I thought about it and just kind of having some experiences with my own kids, he'll probably kill me. But even like last night, we Paul was upset. And so when you have to talk to your kids about belonging and they're upset and they're hurt and they're sad, that is really, really a hard conversation to have as a parent, I think. Because you always want your child to belong. You want them to have friends, you want, you know, whatever's going on, you want them to have that relationship piece and feel safe and belong somewhere. And when they come to you and they are sharing with you, they don't feel like they have belonging. Your mama heart hurts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Well, I think it kind of depends on what was maybe like a taboo topic in your family. So if hey, we don't talk about that and that could be your emotions or whatever, then bringing it up to kids is like very uncomfortable because you were never taught how to have those conversations. And so then you're dysregulated because this is uncomfortable for you and they're upset for whatever it is and can feel that. So I think there's if it's hard for you, the kids will know that.
SPEAKER_04:I think that one of the hardest things for me was when I would have to share information with my kids and not really it not really be a just a topic of discussion or something that was what they needed to talk about, but maybe sharing information and there wasn't a solution. Like I have to give you this information, but there's not really anything we can do about it. Those were the hardest topics for me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, is sometimes we don't have the answers. And it can be kind of intimidating to think that we as the adults are the ones that are supposed to be the ones that have all the answers, and then the kids ask us questions or we have information to share, and we just don't have anything, or we feel like we don't have anything that can be helpful. So, how can small, non-threatening conversations early on in life build the trust needed for bigger, more sensitive conversations later on?
SPEAKER_06:I think it sets the template of, hey, you we may have things that can be upsetting for you, for me, whatever it is, but we're gonna go ahead and talk it and talk about it, you know, nobody's gonna get upset. You know, we can take breaks. It prepares you to know what that's gonna look like.
SPEAKER_01:Along those lines, how can consistent openness, even in small things, lay the groundwork for kids to come to their parents with bigger, harder issues?
SPEAKER_03:I think it lays the groundwork for trust and feel and some safety there. Like I can come to my parents. The the one people I should be able to come to with anything I have, small or big, if I can trust them with the small things. When the big things happen, I know I have my my people and I can go to them and say, okay, this is what's going on. I feel safe with them, I can share with them, and we're gonna work through whatever the problem may be together.
SPEAKER_04:I think that's so important too to start early and just so you're always creating and maintaining a consistent, safe space for kids to feel safe, trusting to have those conversations.
SPEAKER_06:Well, and I think the openness on the both sides, not just for expecting kids to be open, but in age-appropriate ways address coming and saying, Hey, this is this is what I know, and not trying to hide things from them. And so they are, you know, you're modeling that of like, hey, I'm gonna be open with you so you can be open with me.
SPEAKER_01:Which leads perfect to the next question. So, how can having honest, difficult conversations, especially when the parents are vulnerable, strengthen trust and connection with the child?
SPEAKER_03:I think the answer is in the question, just being honest. I mean, because as you mentioned earlier, even as adults, we don't have all the answers to everything. And I think just being honest with, hey, let's try to work through this together.
SPEAKER_06:It was something I had to learn that sometimes you have to tell kids like, hey, that hurts my feelings, or like, hey, I'm not okay right now. And you know, you don't have to tell them every everything that's happening, but kids can pick up on things. And so just sharing that of, hey, yeah, this is how I'm feeling. And again, like I said before, just modeling that of if you show them it's okay to do those things, they're gonna feel more like they can also do them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think I heard someone once say that a good risk person doesn't sell something they're not willing to buy. We as the adults sometimes have to set the set the framework of how things are gonna go. We we share first, we're vulnerable first, create that safe environment where the kid realizes, okay, it is this is a safe environment if they're willing to open up and be vulnerable too. But that's not always easy, is it?
SPEAKER_03:No, no, not at all.
SPEAKER_01:So, what are some practical steps for parents that they can take to prepare for a hard conversation with their child?
SPEAKER_06:I mean, I think you have to be regulated or at least regulated enough, having at least some kind of grasp on the situation. I know sometimes we may not understand things, but at least you know you're not just going in giving this little bit of information and you're feeling chaotic and then you bring them into your chaos of you know trying to process it yourself before you bring the kid in.
SPEAKER_04:I think too, you have to be willing to stop if you need to stop, take a break, come back to it. Like it might have to be something that you do in chunks, it might not be something you can do all at once, and you have to be willing to do that.
SPEAKER_06:That's a right. I agree. Well, and setting that expectation early of like, hey, this is a hard conversation. If you need a break, if I need a break, we may have to take a minute and come back in a week or in a couple of days, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_03:Or even just being honest with the child of like, hey, I may not be the right person. And so that may mean you have to go to someone else to have that conversation because I may not be the right person to have that knowledge to be able to give you the right information or the information.
SPEAKER_01:I think doing your homework is also important too. If you know you're about ready to have a tough conversation with a kid and you may not know all the details about whatever subject that is. So go talk to a friend, a counselor, something someone who may have some broader information on the topic. Or Lita, like you said, I love the idea of bringing someone else in and um kind of talking to another person ahead of time and seeing if you can get that set up and just set yourself up for success.
SPEAKER_03:Because I think sometimes, as we mentioned, we don't have the answers to everything. And so if you just as an example, like if you have a child that maybe question God or spirituality or something like that, maybe bringing your pastor in or someone that has a little bit more knowledge to be able to help that child have some understanding or maybe get the right answer so they can make an informed decision, it's okay to do that.
SPEAKER_01:It's so powerful too. I think that we're not gonna have all the answers all the time. The ability to say, I don't know, but let's go find out together. Instead of just shrugging your shoulders and saying, uh, I don't know. And then the kid doesn't really feel like they can trust you in the future too.
SPEAKER_04:I think timing is important too. Like you don't want to just go through something difficult, like maybe they failed a test at school and they're not in the best of mood, and then you hit them with a hard conversation or they just lost the football game, or I think timing's important too, and we have to be sensitive to them being ready to have that conversation and make sure that the timing is right.
SPEAKER_01:So, how can parents approach tough topics like death, sex, bullying, or mental health in a way that's both age appropriate and non-threatening?
SPEAKER_06:I mean, I think for the a lot of it is what we've talked about already is be o being open and honest and preparing them of hey, this is gonna be a hard conversation. I think the tricky part of the conversation is the age appropriate because and you know, a three-year-old's ability to comprehend death is gonna be very different than a 13-year-old trying to help them understand. You know, you don't want to scare somebody. And so I think that is hard. And I also think it depends, you know, not every kid is the same emotional maturity at 13. And so understanding where your kid is at and not it's it's not a cookie-cutter answer of like, hey, you can say this to a 13-year-old because every single one of them is gonna be a little bit different.
SPEAKER_01:So maybe it's managing our own expectations too, and that what their response is gonna be, being prepared for that. I like that. Not it isn't gonna be a cookie-cutter conversation.
SPEAKER_06:Well, and kind of letting them lead. If they ask a question where they have more understanding than you maybe thought they were gonna have, and answering it, giving them some power in that conversation of if they take what you say at face value and there's no follow-up, then maybe that's all you needed, but maybe they do need more than you thought they were going to.
SPEAKER_01:I wonder how much of it is our own fear of these topics that makes it hard for us and kind of just accepting and embracing the fact that it is gonna be hard and just knowing that we have to get through it. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I mean, I think I have to prepare myself sometimes to have hard conversations and I talk it up in my head and then I have it, and the kid's like, okay. Yeah. And I'm like, oh right, yeah, I was feeling the same thing.
SPEAKER_03:Well, because I you know, these are tough topics to talk about death, sex, bullying, mental health. And as Taylor was mentioning, you know, letting them kind of steer that conversation of like how much information do they really need at that point in time, what's age appropriate. Because some of these topics are taboo, you know, bullying. You know, a lot of times if our kids are coming to us and talking to us about they're being bullied, our response sometimes is like, well, just hit that kid back, take care of it. And that may not be what that kid needs, you know, or even mental health, because I know that's a hard topic. That's a hard topic when your child is hurting or whatever may be going on. How do you respond back that's helpful?
SPEAKER_01:So, how important is the timing and how can parents recognize the right moment to bring up a difficult topic?
SPEAKER_06:Julie, you are so prepared.
SPEAKER_04:You already I mean, again, like you wouldn't want to do it when they're already going through a difficult, you know, situation, maybe you want to make sure that not only you're regulated, but they're regulated and that they're open to having that conversation. Like, I can remember asking my kids, like, we need to talk about this, is now a good time. And they could tell me, no, can we do it like after dinner or can we do it on the weekend or whatever it is? And so I think letting kids help choose when we have that conversation if that ability is an option.
SPEAKER_03:And I think whenever they say to you, hey, I want to have this conversation after dinner, we gotta remember, okay, after dinner, this is when we're gonna have that conversation and not get busy doing other things and we forget about it. But I agree with you, letting them lead. This is the time I want to. Because if we or we're pushy about it, that conversation's going nowhere. You know, so we gotta let them have some buy-in to like, hey, this is a difficult time to have that conversation.
SPEAKER_06:I think it holds us accountable too, because I've, you know, seen parents or staff or different people just you don't want to hurt a kid. You don't want to tell them something that's gonna upset them. And so sometimes you put it off because you're like, oh no, not right now. And is it really now's not a good time, or is it I don't want to have this conversation.
SPEAKER_01:So what role does our tone of voice play in helping a child feel safe and open during a hard conversation?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I feel like it plays an important part. If if my tone sounds harsh, then the I don't think the child's gonna feel very open to be able to continue the conversation.
SPEAKER_04:Or if they can sense that you're frustrated or even that you're uneasy, that might affect how they respond to the conversation.
SPEAKER_03:If you're coming into a stressful situation, a crisis situation, and you don't feel confident about it, how am I supposed to trust you? You feel like you're and so I think you know, tone and having that I feel confident in this conversation to be able to have this hard conversation with this child.
SPEAKER_06:And being able to recognize it in yourself and saying, hey, I get that I'm sounding frustrated or this is what I'm feeling, or being open of like, you know, sharing that, hey, I'm a person too, and these are the things that I'm feeling and I'm trying to be present in this moment.
SPEAKER_03:And I think some of it, I mean, I don't know about you guys, but growing up, there wasn't a lot of talking about no feelings in my home. It was like you do what your parents tell you to do. And you know, if you did say, I'm feeling sad or I'm feeling this way, they're like, What? You don't have no bills to pay, you don't have none of these responsibilities. You know, like so this is a new thing for all of us of letting our kids be open and honest to discuss, hey, I'm upset right now and being able as parents, I know I did a lot of redo's because I didn't handle situations well, you know, because some of my old stuff came in and I'm like, this is how we're doing things. And so I had to go back and ask for some redo's on some conversations.
SPEAKER_04:I think it's okay to be gentle too and to have compassion, but you can't use those things to be avoidant. So you have to just kind of hit it head on with compassion and gentleness. Yeah, sometimes I would find myself being avoidant or I'd start dancing around a subject and my kids would be like, just tell me.
SPEAKER_01:So along those same lines, what about body language? Why is posture, eye contact, physical space so important during these conversations? And what are some things parents should be mindful of?
SPEAKER_03:Well, if I'm there with my hands crossed and I'm kind of staring at you, that's gonna really open up for us to have a good conversation with one another. You know, no child's gonna be like, okay, let's have this conversation. So I think like Taylor has mentioned several times, making sure you're in a good spot. You're ready to have that conversation, you know, make an eye contact, you or attend if you're in tune to what's going on with the child.
SPEAKER_06:When body language is the first thing they see. So before you even start the conversation, if you look freaked out and mad or whatever it is, they're gonna be like, oh no, we don't want to have this conversation.
SPEAKER_01:I think power differential is a big deal for kids. I mean, we as adults hold all the power. So being aware of our size, I think is important. If you're like a tall or big person, you know, making yourself smaller in relation to the kid. Don't tower over them. So can maybe sit down or squat down, let them be kind of equal, or maybe even a higher level of power. That way they'll be probably more likely to open up with you. I think eye contact is also really hard. I think we as adults often demand that eye contact with kids. And some for some kids that's a very, very threatening and they're gonna go to shutdown mode if you force them to make eye contact with you.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and like you say, physical space, you know, being able to know if I'm close to you, how that can make that child feel compared to if I'm on one side of the room, like we're we're not feeling connected. So just paying attention to the space.
SPEAKER_04:Well, kids are gonna trust the way you make them feel over what you have to say to them.
SPEAKER_01:So, what's the difference between lecturing and having a dialogue with the kids when it comes to these hard topics? And why does that actually matter?
SPEAKER_03:Dialogue means two people involved in the conversation, and lecture usually means one person is having the conversation. And I think sometime as parents, I'm guilty of this. I know my husband is guilty of this, of having lectures.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I love to lecture my daughters. It feels really, really, really good.
SPEAKER_03:It's really helpful, right? It's it's really helpful.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it helps me. It makes me feel really, really good. But sometimes I'm pretty sure about 10 seconds into my well thought out, you know, oration that they're just I'm the teacher from Charlie Brown, just wah, wah, wah, wah. They don't hear anything that I say.
SPEAKER_03:Adrian, I he was talking about this in one of his trainings just this last week when we were in Houston, where he was having a conversation with one of our daughters, but it was more of a lecture. And he came out and I said, You know, you were in there for like an hour and 15 minutes. And he didn't feel like he had been in there that long. He was like, No, there's no way I've been there. I was like, Yeah, so you know she heard nothing you said what after the first five or ten minutes, because I it needs to be a dialogue and it was more of a lecture.
SPEAKER_01:I think it goes to what is the goal of the conversation. I mean, if it's just me getting up there and standing and talking, and I mean, it's kind of pointless, they're not gonna hear it. But if our goal is for them to actually hear something, then I think that respectful two-way street of a conversation is gonna make a much more beneficial impact.
SPEAKER_06:And I feel like lecturing assumes that you know what they're thinking. So if you're dialoguing, then you're, you know, you may think, oh, this is the direction we need to go, and then they say something that you're like, oh, that's not at all what I thought you were thinking. And it helps you have the responses in the conversation that needs to be had instead of just making assumptions about what's going on.
SPEAKER_01:Aaron Powell So how should parents handle it when a conversation doesn't go well if the kid shuts down, gets defensive, or if the parent feels or becomes emotionally triggered?
SPEAKER_06:I mean, I think bringing attention to it of and then setting the expectations of, hey, I get that you're shut down right now, I get that you're dysregulated, or I'm feeling this way, or this isn't going how I hope, and saying, okay, this conversation does have to continue. We'll talk about it later, or I'll come back and check on you, or whatever it is. I know I was arguing with a kid one day and I realized I was arguing, and so I just stopped and said, Okay, we're done. If you'd like to have this conversation, I would love to talk to you about it. But until we can have a conversation and not an argument, I'm gonna, you know, walk away. But it takes some self-awareness on our part too, because it took me a minute.
SPEAKER_03:I was in that arguing loop before I realized, oh no, you trapped me and I had to pull out like Taylor said that self-awareness, I'm the adult. And so at some point in time, I gotta be able to say, we have to stop this conversation. We can come back to it another time when we both are regulated to be able to continue the conversation.
SPEAKER_01:I do think that's one of the hardest things to do is when you're caught in that argument trap, pull yourself out, be aware enough to pull yourself out. But I think you're right, it is incredibly important.
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SPEAKER_06:Well, and there's moments other people have had to pull me out of it, of you don't even you know the conversation is going in circles and you just sometimes are stuck in it and someone else has had to step in and be like, Okay, this is what I'm hearing, we need to be because I think you think, I gotta prove my point.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_04:I think too if I had if my parents while they were talking to me about something I shut down or I didn't make eye contact or I started showing signs of being frustrated or defensive, that would have been perceived as disrespectful. And so I think we have to remember that those are kids trying to manage their emotions at that time and that it's not disrespectful. It's probably self-care for them.
SPEAKER_06:And I think Taleda brought up Sama, and I feel like that's a good moment to even say, hey, this is what I'm noticing. Like, you know, what what are you feeling? And having those conversations. And sometimes you can, you know, get more in that moment and it may be a more productive conversation of just refocusing on how are you feeling in this moment.
SPEAKER_03:But I think like we started earlier. If we're having those conversations when kids are young, we're all role plan on how to get better or when they're older, and we do have to have those difficult conversations. Like we talked, we probably didn't have a lot of conversations that we were as we were growing up. So now we're learning new ways to be able to communicate to our kids, either in our home or even the residents that we care for. And even, I mean, Taylor can probably speak on this a little bit too. Even when we're talking to our parents about how to be open and have those conversations and how to pull out of it, we still got that old mindset, like you say, of being disrespectful. And we're gonna have this conversation. So just new tools and retraining ourselves on how to have those hard conversations, and it's not being disrespectful if your child's shut down. They're just trying to regulate themselves in the conversation.
SPEAKER_06:Well, and it's not manipulation, it's not, and even if it is, there's a reason that you're trying you're using that and so trying to find out what's behind it.
SPEAKER_03:And I think we get that a lot from our parents when we're trying to maybe help explain what's going on, they feel like there's some manipulation going on.
SPEAKER_01:So, what is some final encouragement that you would give to a parent who wants to begin to have these hard conversations but feels unassure or afraid?
SPEAKER_06:I mean, I think we're all a little unsure and a little bit unf afraid, and some of it is just go trying and being open and being willing to come back and say, Hey, I'm so sorry, this didn't go how I planned, this is my intention. And I've learned that an apology with a kid goes a long way. They'll kind of just stare at you with big eyes, like what? We're all just doing the best and making sure that you're upfront about that.
SPEAKER_03:As I mentioned earlier, just having those opportunities to have redo's. I've had to I've had to do a lot of redoes with my own kids and being able, like you say, going back and apologizing because as adults, most of the times we're taught not we don't we're the adult. We don't have to apologize to a child, but being able to say, hey, that didn't go well. Can I have an opportunity to redo that again? Because I think that goes a long way for a child. They recognize that the conversation didn't go well. I mean, we know it didn't go well, but you're coming back as an adult to be able to say, Hey, can I have another opportunity to do that again? And we're mauling for them when things don't go well, being able to go back and say, Hey, can I have an opportunity to do that again? And there's nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER_04:I think it's important too to make sure that you're setting aside time just to have conversations with your kids. If you're too busy, you're into your routine or whatever it is you have to get done to just have conversations. Hey, how did your day go? I think just those normal conversations start laying the groundwork for when you have to have a hard conversation.
SPEAKER_03:In the car. Because you can't they can't get out of the heart. In the car is the best time, especially living out your head voice managing having to drive the Amarella. That's the time to have those hard or have conversations with your kids because like I say, they can get out.
SPEAKER_02:They can't take the airpod. Yeah. He knows when I go, so it's about to be a hard conversation.
SPEAKER_01:And I would say too that just acknowledge it is gonna be hard and it's not gonna be in the immediate time a fun experience. But I think back on a lot of the conversations I've had with kids, some of the kids I've had relation, you know, good relationships with, or I thought were good relationships where I never actually had a hard conversation with them. And then in the since they've left Boys Ranch, I don't really hear from them much anymore. But some of the kids I had some of the most difficult, hardest, uncomfortable conversations with, I think that solidified the relationship with them. They realized that I cared about them in both the good times and the hard times, and I was going to be there from the fun conversations and the not so fun conversations. And I think it really did deepen and solidify those relationships. So even if they're not fun, if they're you're not looking forward to it, be brave, be daring, and it'll be beneficial for you and the kid in the long run. All right, so thank you so much for joining with us today. I hope it wasn't too hard of a conversation. An easy conversation for you to have would be to tell your friends and family all about brain-based parenting and encourage them to check us out. And you can also remind them that you might have to loan out your frontal lobes today. Just make sure you remember to get them back.
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